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Okay I managed to beat the cheating AI(v6.1.1) with terran against all three races fairly easy, and even 3v1 against a mix of all the three races. Now I'm switching to zerg, but I can't beat any of the races! I fail at the second rush! What the hell do you guys do? In detail please, 13 pool? fast expand? what??! And against witch race? Maybe upload a replay?
P.S. This just proves how good the AI's are for practice huh? :P
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I actually managed to beat ZvZ, but it was crossposition. Otherwise his zerglings are out so damn early! :P
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ei how did you download v6.1.1 nid help please, link
your problem is very easy, use roaches, roach is a super imbalance unit, for 75 minerals, 25 gas, 1 population, 145 hp, 16 attack, and 3 range dude you can win with that alone
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By the time the zerglings rush I have 3 roaches.. But I actually think I've figured ZvZ out now. I just have to micro my small army real well and then macro up like crazy to hydras.. spire tech doesn't work for me in ZvZ :S havn't tried banelings yet though.
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You guys would probably pwn my face off. I don't even know what the terms macro and micro mean. I don't really play starcraft except for the campaign and UMS maps. >_<
@SantaClaws do you use thors with tanks ? i think this pwns everything. I play zerg most of the time and i make roaches with hydrals (roaches as a shields for hydrals, hydralisk are my dps) but i can't beat battcruisers as a zerg !! any ideas ?
@nick88389 macro means building an army, micro means moving the army around to maxamize damage to the opponent while minimizing damage to your own units. (kiting if you play diablo or wow or whatever)
@david, in TvZ I first make my wall with a barrack and a reactor and I mass marines for a while. Then I build a factory and a FEW tanks for defense only (always pumping marines). Then I expand and build a starport with another reactor where I make 6-7 medivacs and then just pump vikings, and I build another barrack with techlab where I research stim pack, then shield and pump out marauders. And then I just have a unit combo of marines, marauders, medivacs and vikings. And they pretty much own the zerg AI, havn't been up against broodlords yet though, but I imagine the vikings will take care of those easily. Oh and ofcourse I try to upgrade my infantry as much as possible when I have the resources to spend.
Havn't played ZvT yet, but I would try corrupters vs battlecruisers.?
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corrupters are pretty good but i think corruptors need they old spell (for a few second control enemy unit)
@SantaClaws
I've tried early game rush with banelings, and this Ai counters it too well.
I haven't played much against it, since studies are once again on my ass.
But I'm going to attempt other zerg tactics and see how they fair out.
Ok very soon I'll show you how easy it is to beat Zerg AI cheatingwith Terran :)
Is there newer AI than 6.1.1?
DrCometh, it's not hard to beat zerg with Terran, it's the other way around. ZvT or ZvP is verry hard imo. I havn't played zerg much though.
I can beat Tv(P+Z+T) and Pv(P+Z+T) fairly easy. With that I mean 1v3 ofcourse.
But when I'm zerg I can only beat zerg.
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I can beat all of them. Caz them always use 1 way rush. Zerg - zergling + roach then goes into muta. Toss - mass zealot then prism or cruiser. Terr - marine + 100minerals guys then tanls + thor + viking.
I can beat'em all with mothership rush!!!
ok i will post a replay me zerg vs terran 6.1 cheating ai
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been playing lots of non-cheating AI (gettin a little boring, might make the switch) so this might be useless to you, but I've found the following:
ZvP - Mutas - as you suggested, I go 13 pool AND fast expand, try and hold off his first rush w/ lings/sunkens which is a close fight but if I win that, I tech to mutas and kill his probes for a pretty cheezy win (did this 2v2 and killed both toss probes/nexus w/ a growing stack of 5 mutas).
ZvT - build some roaches to soak up damage w/ your lings at first then get on hydras hard, should be able to take him if you pick off medivacs
If you find you can't win at all w/ a race, maybe look at more general things than build orders and units. For example, it's VERY important to get a queen out right after your spawning pool (I usually do 16 overlord|16queen) and start spawning larvae. Also consider macro (expand & contain), micro, scouting, upgrades, etc.
Same as you, I can win with Terran most of the time with a wall of barracks and bunkers in 4xFFA.
The strategy is the same for Zerg. If you can get into mid game you have a fair chance of winning. Surviving the initial rush is the key.
The few times I won with Zerg, I block the choke point with a hatchery at 15 food, (more HPs, extra creep and larvae), followed by pool and several spine colonies. From there pump out zerglings with speed upgrade. Get a queen for each Be sure to fight on creep in the beginning for the speed advantage.
Check out v7.0! It was just released here in the forums!
If you go ZvP I'd say the best thing (according to me) is to go for gas quickly and then pump quite a few lings/banel to beat back the first wave of zealots. Then I do a few roaches and mass hydra and move in for an attack, killing his force and taking his expand out. And then it's pretty much over for him.
Though I must say, Zerg is without a doubt the hardest to play vs cheating AI as.
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What ai is this green tea?
The roach is 2 supply man
wow if this is green tea, this forum is gettin old.
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Corrupters counter Battlecruisers due to the fact that battlecruisers are massive.