What's the meaning of APM to you?

Seems that most insiders or ranked tools/AI authors are gone, so, I would like to focus on gameplaying now. What's the real meaning of APM? I don't know why most of you set something like GPA to that APM, but as what I got, to win a game in a as low as possible APM is my favourite. Anyone agree?

Anonymous
180.94.133.xxx

APM - means Actions-Per-Minute
And I do not agree. Less APM means your like more "dead" than actually playing the game. And how can that be your favorite?O_o
Well I guess you hate stressing yourself making too many actions in a minute during a match so to answer your question from the topic title: "What's the meaning of APM to you?"
It's the thing that determines how much effort your putting in a match and each action increases the APM but however if in the next minute you do less actions the both APM results for each minute (lets say 1st minute of the game and the 2nd minute of the game) will be calculated by a simple as this: ex in the 1st minute; 72 | and in the 2nd; 20 | now take both results and make a sum out of them then the S is devided(/) by 2 and you get the average APM you got in those 2 minutes.
Hope it became clear.

EDIT: oh and for me it's important to get out as much APM(and useful ones) as possible during each minute

Corporal

But if you have most of the things in your mind, would you still need that high APM to win? I think a high APM is only necessary for telling the units to select what the most favourite or beneficial targets they should have, but not to do some they should/should not have to do. ~

Anonymous
180.94.175.xxx

APM to me is a overhyped false sense of professionalism.

Those with high APM think they are the shit, and that those with lower APM will lose to them.
I can spam keys too, but I'm not any cooler than I was with low APM.

Anyhow, I cheer for people with low APM who win games, because they help prove that it's nothing important.

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OobsvrBut if you have most of the things in your mind, would you still need that high APM to win? I think a high APM is only necessary for telling the units to select what the most favourite or beneficial targets they should have, but not to do some they should/should not have to do. ~

Uh high APM does not mean a user spams keys... (not all the time at least) but it means that the user is trying to give out as many orders to other units as possible for example professionals in sc2 use micromanagement which helps them be way more effective in battles/out of battles by focusing on a particular task which could make the difference. Same goes for macromanagement which is as important as the micro one.
Anyway it does not mean low APM players are weaker than high APM ones. The high APM players can make serious mistakes instead. So it really matters how well your deciding the next order will be.

Corporal

-Yucie
I am not comparing someone and another one here, but I just tell what I got, because I think the final result of a win is the same to high/low APM. However, if you ask me why I like the low APM, I will tell you that it's a mind/might problem. Of course, I like to see a high APM game too, but it's just like what a gorgeous film means to me.

-Zakusho

So it really matters how well your deciding the next order will be.

That is it.

Anonymous
180.94.177.xxx

According to whatever source, there are some hidden hotkeys that can accomplish a series of actions in the game. Anyone can tell me why these hotkeys are not released?

Anonymous
180.94.168.xxx

Unless someone is simply spamming rightclicks to make a group of units go round in a circle, a high APM usually means the person is doing alot more at one time, such as queuing a new unit as soon as the first is done as compared to perhaps 10 seconds later as one with lower apm might manage. Those with higher APM generally also respond to threats and such quicker, which does make a difference. While it might not win the game, a higher APM usually means a higher chance of winning.

Oobsvr, the only hotkeys are those listed in the bottom right grid when you select a unit, there are no hidden ones, unless you count those not so obvious ones like W to select all warpgates, which while not listed in the grid, is still shown in game.

Lieutenant

Veiora higher APM usually means a higher chance of winning

Yes I know what you mean, but IMO, more/less effort to win is a division of "processing level". Just like programming, would you say 10 lines of code is better than 1 line of code if they both have the same output? Or, in a boxing game, Ali KO Tyson in one blow while Tyson have 10 hits land on Ali, what will you say? These are imaginations of course, but they are just exactly what I think.

there are no hidden ones

Glad to have this. Since I am a conspiracy theorist already, I believe bad things rather than good things more oftenly, especially from some unknown sources. Agree?

Anonymous
180.94.184.xxx

Ofc APM is not mayor factor that tells that this one is PRO and other is noob.

But ofc ppl that have perfect timing but will not be able to get high APM (depends on what you call high) when they need ( not spam but good mikro/makro/multitasking) will be not able too keep up on high lvl games.

When you get great sense of game, timing, makro, mikro , multitasking you get high APM by default.

About your programing example, quite often you use more lines of code that necessary to make code more clear, flexible and so on.
Some ppl prefer spaming from the beginning when there is not too much to do because it help them to keep up when they will need high APM.

// edit: ofc beginning , spell-check failure ;]

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I watch streams of guys who spam keys all day long and whack on their keyboards like moronic crackheads or retards trying to keep their APM up.. I try to avoid these streams, it's annoying as sin to listen to and watch. These guys with high APMs and worn out keyboards also are no better than many of the guys I watch with very low APM compared to these spammers.. Like 30APM instead of 150 APM often wins.

APM will not win you games, there are too many things other than APM that go into winning than simply how many actions per minute you make.

In all games, APM plays a factor for a short time, like while microing and macroing in a battle, but this crap about APM winning and losing games is a joke.

Also, I'm only gold, but my stoned ass gets about 22APM on average and I have 52% win ratio against people who often have at least double my APM. I think the higher the rank, the more APM can matter, but I still know for a fact that it doesn't win games. Effective builds, proper counters, and good scouting wins games.

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Ofc APM is not mayor factor that tells that this one is PRO and other is noob

The following was what I wrote in the first post - "but as what I got, to win a game in a as low as possible APM is my favourite. Anyone agree?", did I mention any so called pro/noob there? You and others keep on telling someone else that I am jealous of those "gaming pro", isn't it?

But ofc ppl that have perfect timing but will not be able to get high APM (depends on what you call high) when they need ( not spam but good mikro/makro/multitasking) will be not able too keep up on high lvl games.

I think you may prefer a "Human macro player" or a robot. Have you seen the film "The Bourne Ultimatum"? Did you know the meaning of what Bourne told the hitman was?

quite often you use more lines of code that necessary to make code more clear, flexible and so on

According to what you said, this was the difference between a pro/hacker and noob/script kiddie.

Some ppl prefer spaming from the begging

Who are begging there? I guess it is "beginning", better to hope that this is just a mistake but not an insult. I am not pro in black english.

to keep up when they will need high

Exercises always lead to perfect.

Anonymous
180.94.190.xxx

FootMan2KI try to avoid these streams, it's annoying as sin to listen to and watch

OMG, even Michael Corleone needed to listen up on these unfortunately. So, I would rather to remember these too even in toilet, nah, just jokes. :)

there are too many things other than APM that go into winning

That is it x2.

Effective builds, proper counters, and good scouting wins games

Off-topic: not really sometimes, like the Jap in WW2 or "VIETNAM" in 1960-70's.

Anonymous
180.94.171.xxx

Allright, seems that nobody agree to my opinion due to it's opposition to official standard. This thread is suspended, NO slang / backstreet backstabbing PLEASE.

Anonymous
180.94.133.xxx

In winning a game with as low APM as possible, sure, it might make it a more fun challenge. However, with such a mindset, it might simply not be possible to win if you deliberately limit your APM. The trick is being able to support a high APM when needed, especially during fights or skirmishes, not just aiming for as low an APM as you can possibly go for. Furthermore, I don't see any reason you should even try for a low APM. A higher APM allows you to manage more things at once if used well, which makes you a better player in general. When I taught my friends how to play SC2 at first, I went really easy on them and found that when I tried to play in the leagues again, my skill actually diminished, so no, i wouldnt try to go for a low APM game.

Lieutenant

VeiorA higher APM allows you to manage more things at once if used well

Well, in fact I think this should be what in a course of MBA. Tell me if there is a boss in this world would like to do more than less.
Ummm, let's suspend this thread and entertain some other interesting things ok?

Anonymous
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