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I hope you understood that Ptan is the core developer, I am making strategy and developing build and unit production. We both work on 12 commanders per each race, could be good you feedback both version. About list opening, can you make *.txt version that we can work with it.
Thx
Ok ill' make a txt and relase to you
yes i understood about you and ptan ;D
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i trust that i can relase it tonight.. if u give me your msn is better to work ;)
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I have only business internet, could not use msn on.
Ok.. so tell me where i can upload my txt document to you, anyway this night txt will'be released .
2-3 opening for TVSP , TVZ , TVT
If nobody are writing opening for protoss and zerg, tell me.. i study best opening too for other races so i upload a complete work ready to implemented into the AI.
I think best way is, Standard Best opening , and after the opening, AI will use your countering sistem to get the best unit composition .
But All opening need to be improved and i'm studying on it , so say to me if you wanna a complete work for all races, or only terran,
I wanna see AI more realistic as possible ;)
Just a question, if we work in a map only one map.. u can say to ai when exactly AI build structure? so AI can make a perfect closer.. cuz some opening, need closer.. for example Anti BaneRush with helion harass, etc.....
Say to me so i can make a full work
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You can upload on mediafire.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/dmgyxykfzdk/Terran Opening.txt
3 terran vs protoss opening
3 good start with strong push.
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hi, what does this mean?
AISetDifficulty(player, c_diffAllowResourceReq, false);
you claim dark tea doesn't cheat, but I'm convinced it does. does this command have something to do with it? I found this in MeleeAI.galaxy. You said in an earlier post on this thread, that you aren't actually making the AI, ptan is and you are just developing strategies, so couldn't that mean that this AI still cheats?
I hate cheating AI, it's not realistic and doesn't teach you anything except how to get owned. If I set this command to "true" will it stop cheating? To me, the command says "Allow Resource Requirement?" which means that they don't need all the funds to get what they want.
No emc.. dakra not use cheats..
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@emc: nope, if you turn this on, worker will not fight or run, instead, keep mining resources.
@Legendary, Terrans cannot push with scv yet.
Cannot build barrack near Enemy town at start, only later during first wave attack maybe.
Sorry already thinking.
Repear + Marauder push could be an idea.
OK.
About TvT there aren't so many opening.. u can copy until 15 orbital.. later.. some T user like to try Tank rush with rines or immidiatly make 2 startport 1 with banshee 1 with vikings ( usually they win with this.. ) other terran try befor push with marauder and rine later a reaper scouting/harass but.. i don't like it so much.. cuz is too easy to counter.
TvZ u can add 3 rax and upgrades STIMPACK +1fantry damage and gogo when stimpack ready
In other case, Most T go haras with helinons fast as possible.. like start with 10 rax 10 gas tech lab and factory landing rax and use techlab for factory.. push and continue make units.. switch to tank and prepare to exp making startport and armory and if Z go Mutas Make SOme turrets and Thor to defend.. later go with a macro game , 120/130 PSi go attak and make Third Expansion, or stay @ base and make Third Base if can not attak.
Another Alternative is Banshee Rush After Helion harass, but Zerg now learning to make 2-3-N queen to counter it.. anyway if T do a lot of damage with helion banshe can do the rest with other support.. there are some ideas.. sorry my english is not perfect.. if u need i can upload so may reps so u can see with your eyes what i say ;P
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Hellion harass already done. About siege expand or siege opening or fast banshee.
This is the version I have made before include counter module. (0.48b if I am right)
Swap add-ons not supported yet, already tried.
We are working on counter module version 3....
We will regroup A.I to make selection against race. Not ready yet.
Ai Regroutp and selection against race is VERY GOOD idea i've posted already about it ;)
so i'll wait ;)
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thanks for the reply, well i checked out this command:
c_diffNormalVision
in the meleeAI.galaxy and it's defaulted to false and I put it to true and now they scout me. For future versions, can you make the default as true? I checked out 49c and I had to do it again, it's a minor annoyance but I'm sure most people get this AI for the non-cheating ai and you have a command that allows them to cheat.
Also with this command on true, they now need air to spot you on high ground which is a big plus and is more realistic.
About MAss aRchoon.. uhm i think totaly useless, nothing using it.. cuz archoon are underpowered not like sc1
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Right, archon should only group after high templar has finish their storm.
I see so many bugs, about It.. AI make templar archive.. but don't research storm.. AI make fist one templar.. and later another.. but no research.. so terran attak and protoss AI loss. I think IF AI Make Templar Archive.. later it can no train units until research storm.. so later it can use templar...
ptanhk please try tro improve FF sistem.. i never see FF use of protoss against terran.. only vs zerg i see .
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i turn of the FF vs terran :|, basically it lock down zealot while the terran has range.
@ Legendary, can you test the Reaper version in the beta page, is it harrass working good enough ?
http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/green-tea-ai-beta-test/
feedback posted in his forum .
about FF i think AI make too many ZEALOTS:. zealots are not good against Terran.
EveryProtoss I see in platinum league or Diamond USe force field to separate my Fantry MM.. no FF easy push for terran.. so u can improve it if is possible..
protoss are sentry abuser anywhere.
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How to compare this Al to League in SC2?
Phoenix doesn't use graviton beam for some reason (0.49d).
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Only use when been attacked, already told.