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I think it would be a great idea to make the original StarCraft campaign with the brand new StarCraft 2 engine.
Is there anybody or some teams to plan this?
It is a great idea, but only Blizzard would be able to do it.
To this date, no one has tried to crack nor hack nor steal the original StarCraft source -- infact the only game in which I have heard that a source has been stolen was Half Life.
Nice thought though, I would definitely replay the old SC1 with the SC2 engine haha
You don't really need to have the source code to replicate the campaign, only to be able to replicate the maps well and a good understanding of the triggers involved, which should be apparent as you play through it.
In a sense, you would -- although I was thinking a replica not a small scale version.
How would you obtain the thousands of lines of code which represent the triggers involved? How would you replicate the cinematic scenes where the three factions talk amongst themselves, and although you can extract the wave files used for voiceover -- how could you possibly incorporate it into the StarCraft 2 map design, which has such a limited capacity in terms of megabytes?
Although, I will admit I was looking at this from a different perspective -- when he stated that he would have liked it to be
-- and with "Original" comes originality, and there would be no way to recreate the original StarCraft campaign without access to the source code of the campaign.But to put it all on a smaller scale, it could definitely be done in simplistic terms. I do not know if the voiceovers of Raynor and everything from SC1 and SCBW could be done, but as you said, the maps and a more simple version of all of the triggers could be redone -- map-by-map.
This is actually very interesting now that I think of it. I am unsure whether or not a map designer would be willing to put in the hours needed to recreate it, but if one steps up and lets me know -- Nibbits will definitely sponsor this and it could not only bring quite a bit more traffic to nibbits, but just as well bring many more designers looking to chip in. We could do an open source-esque design, with the original project having it own forum and portal section.
Veior, any chance you have any knowledge in Map Design? I would love to actually help out with this and go ahead and reinstall SC1, and then begin playing with several variables and designs that are originally in the campaign, in attempts to record them in something like an open Google Doc so that other members of this hypothetical team could join in on.
The more I think about it, the more I like it! =) Anyone else have thoughts on it?
Thinking about pinning this but I would like to see more of a response from our users first.. Anyone who reads this, please discuss and criticize =) This may be yet another implementation into Nibbits that I have in mind!
You shouldn't use everything from Starcraft 1. The source code is unnecessary too.
We should play through first the 3 campaign of Starcraft 1 and then the 3 campaign of Brood War.
Use "blacksheepwall" cheat to explore the full map. After that we can create snapshots about the following things:
- map design
- unit/building placement of player and computer opponents
Then create the UMS maps with Starcraft 2 editor:
- create MAPs
- edit player properties
- place units/buildings
- create basic triggers with the purpose of the corresponding level. (for example: destroy the Overmind)
All the discussions are nearly unnecessary too. We all know the story. We should only place basic conversations and story elements in 5-10 sentences for a map.
For example:
- The purpose of this map is to protect ... Because ...
- Then destroy the ... Because ...
- After that it would be great, Because ...
If we would have a Starcraft 1 MAP to Starcraft 2 MAP converter for the MAP design it would be great. :-)
Firstly I think we should concentrate on Starcraft 1, not Brood War. This would be 30 MAP design with unit placement.
Of course we have one original Starcraft 1 MAP titled Homeland. It's from the Protoss campaign.
Homeland - Protoss Campaign MAP
So the exercise is not so difficult I think. Only takes a lot of time. :-)
I believe the galaxy editor does have a function to convert starcraft 1 maps called "convert legacy map" or something similar but it was alittle buggy especially in mineral placement and some other stuff I can't recall. That said, I'm sure basing a map off that would be significantly easier than having to create another one from scratch.
That's great. Is it possible to extract the maps from the original MPQ files?
If it is, the only work we must do is to correct the mistakes place units/buildings, create the triggers and the small conversations.
Although are the campaign maps able to extract? They are not any normal melee map I know that -- Is it already possible to download the campaign maps from SC1?
This is an MPQ extractor program:
MPQ Extractor
Sorry it's for MAC. I can't find Windows version. :-(
Unfortunately I don't have Starcraft 1 on this computer. :-(
Give it a try and let me know you have succeeded.
Here are all the Campaign maps from the original Starcraft series.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QVVF2VUD
I downloaded it and it contains all of the .scm/.scx MAP files from the 6 episodes so it's not Fake or Virus.
Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8YHd0_5xhg
"Convert legacy map" function works with the MAPs, but it generates peace of shit. :-(
I think the maps would be best re created from scratch by looking at the old maps, converting the old maps probably wouldn't work well anyway being the the unit sizes have changed in sc2 and so the maps would need to be heavily edited anyway.
This is a cool project, but it will take lots of time.
i think someones already doing this...i will attempt to make a camp map after i have a better look at the triggers...or if someone wants to help me with triggers then that would be cool as well
Do you know the name of the person or team that might be working on it?
i'm not sure but heres where some of the sc1 campaign maps are
http://sc2.curse.com/downloads/sc2-maps/categories/star-craft-1.aspx
Excellent, thanks dude!
To heretician,
SC1 campaigns in SC2 is perfect now, what i am doing is laughing on your face :).
Best regards.
115.74.35.xxx
yeah its already out and zerg campaign too! too bad brood war cant come any sooner
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